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  1. #11
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    mustache > pubic hair.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ownagz View Post
    Daisy also has 10% def ignore on stance if im correct lol, prefix mind surely works in mysterieus ways. I just asked for veil vs daisy, idc about caly or hermes or whatsoever
    Well I don't got either to test but judging from what I seen she isn't really good for pve.

    I do think we will get another xbow user within next few months though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelaine View Post
    Why? OMG Why? Veil isnt Caly/Ralph, he never was armor-killer, even near. Veil has ONLY 10 base pene, after patch - 34 pene. For example Caly has 25 base + 22 from job + 15% of whole pene. Dont know where from are you always taking weirdo ideas.
    Veil can get an extra crossbow which gives him the possibility to get 3x 8 pene + chip extra, though

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    Quote Originally Posted by obstinatus View Post
    Veil can get an extra crossbow which gives him the possibility to get 3x 8 pene + chip extra, though
    That's not how it's calculated, the total pene is divided by 2 if it comes to two weapons, so with two xbows of 3x8 the pene is still 24, it's much more expensive and unpractical to use.

    I still back up Daisy, Veil only has 2ar more compared to Daisy, disadvantages: less pene, less atk, cannot skill at all, only on spacebar.
    Daisy's spacebar isnt the best but with double skill dmg on a long run...she's so far the best shooting dps. for pvp too she's of great use despite of the nerf, still great dmg and field control+debuffs.

    Someone from KGE can do the dmg test already we can ask Kimchi

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    Well it's not spacebar dps contest, it's a dps contest which means skills are taken into consideration...and if you check the dmg bar with one skill daisy will top veil xD not even mentionning two instant skills with short CDs, daisy gets 26 more pene and atk%, so more suitable for all raids, for mobs too cuz she has instant aoes.


    Quote Originally Posted by Prefix View Post
    Well he has the 9% pen + his pen its true he has far lower pen than Caly but his base damage is much higher

    Just spacebar Cresmento weapons



    Yes I know its only 150 def but they have no accessories or pet buff and anything so I figured 150 def on cresmento would be a decent test.

    He wins on 225 def also


    My 225 def test I think was best example as a Vigilar Bow would have 10 pen + 8x3 vs cresmento for 34 pen, 19 pen from earring + necklace so ud have 54 more pen just on weapon + accesries and next patch he gets 24 more pen + 24% more attack bringing him arround Ralph tier def ignore

    Note : I did not test AR differences and he does get 1 more ar which would help him further.

    and Rio + Lionel + Grace buffs will help him more

    This was spacebar test only no skill damage test.


    Was trying to test on 250 def but just got pked.

    I might try to borrow 2 bows with similar stats with pen sockets and put on strata set to test higher def but atm dont wanna go back to lake side on ungeared chars.

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