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    Quote Originally Posted by Luri View Post
    2-25 pen?!

    TIME TO REUSE MY LIGHT BRACELETS fyeah
    Not this good tho.
    2-25 is fully stacked effect.
    Rubiana was a step back in terms of in-game meta .Pre-Rubiana MDPS like Lady or Joshua was all about stacking, getting their max stat not right after the start of battle. Joshua have 2x stacking buff\debuff, Lady need 3x her job skill cast ,etc. Rubiana can even stop bothering about such stuff. Simply click channeling- and you`re good to go. Tho it wasn`t like it was described in dev blog,yeah (Dev.blog about Ruby told that GWM shouldn`t be affecting her channeling at all. It even wasn`t listed in skill description until last update, so yeah,technically we`ve got a bit broken Rubiana...at beginning. Just instead of fixing it was made into feature.).
    Kiss Fluke is more like Joshua. His job skill is giving him +1 AR at beginning,and after that every damage he deal to target ( skill\autoattack) give him stacks. At full stacks he`s getting another +1 AR.
    That`s not as good interaction as Joshua`s , as bringing many Kiss`s into squad will not make this stacks faster (it`s self-buff, not boss debuff).
    But his basic ACC seems to be way better then Ruby\Eileen`s, so probably 30 ACC artifact isn`t even needed. Hoooray-hooray!

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsyous View Post
    Not this good tho.
    2-25 is fully stacked effect.
    Rubiana was a step back in terms of in-game meta .Pre-Rubiana MDPS like Lady or Joshua was all about stacking, getting their max stat not right after the start of battle. Joshua have 2x stacking buff\debuff, Lady need 3x her job skill cast ,etc. Rubiana can even stop bothering about such stuff. Simply click channeling- and you`re good to go. Tho it wasn`t like it was described in dev blog,yeah (Dev.blog about Ruby told that GWM shouldn`t be affecting her channeling at all. It even wasn`t listed in skill description until last update, so yeah,technically we`ve got a bit broken Rubiana...at beginning. Just instead of fixing it was made into feature.).
    Kiss Fluke is more like Joshua. His job skill is giving him +1 AR at beginning,and after that every damage he deal to target ( skill\autoattack) give him stacks. At full stacks he`s getting another +1 AR.
    That`s not as good interaction as Joshua`s , as bringing many Kiss`s into squad will not make this stacks faster (it`s self-buff, not boss debuff).
    But his basic ACC seems to be way better then Ruby\Eileen`s, so probably 30 ACC artifact isn`t even needed. Hoooray-hooray!
    Main issue that the Kiss just need to hit target 25 times, channeling hits also counts. And seems like it doesnt have duration time. Its way better than Joshua's "I need debuff!".
    Also Kiss has better penetration than Rubi. And Rubi will get longer CD on channeling soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xelaine View Post
    Main issue that the Kiss just need to hit target 25 times, channeling hits also counts. And seems like it doesnt have duration time. Its way better than Joshua's "I need debuff!".
    Also Kiss has better penetration than Rubi. And Rubi will get longer CD on channeling soon.
    Its nice for when you run between boss to boss where Joshua's debuff has to stack each time.

    Also is that 24 hits it looks like it to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prefix View Post
    Its nice for when you run between boss to boss where Joshua's debuff has to stack each time.

    Also is that 24 hits it looks like it to me.
    yeah,but in the same time you can`t stack faster by bringing more similar chars.
    in solo-boss raids with squad Joshua can stack debuff almost instantly - if 3-5 Joshua runs their spells.
    But Josh also have her self-buff to stack,so...

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsyous View Post
    yeah,but in the same time you can`t stack faster by bringing more similar chars.
    in solo-boss raids with squad Joshua can stack debuff almost instantly - if 3-5 Joshua runs their spells.
    But Josh also have her self-buff to stack,so...
    Its just 24-25 hits. Chanelling skill will rise this buff up to 10-15 lvl in few secs/
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    They plan on making the other chars from the fan design contest too, right? Thought the brother and sister? Was the top winner.

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    I wonder how strong his multiplier (Like Rubi's Golden Mark and Josh's Chain of Gold) for his channeling skill is since the damage text turned to yellow text O.O; and yay, coat :3

    If Kiss' stacks will work like Josh, it would be like a Rubiana and Joshua comparison. Rubiana would be better at raids where you can burst down the boss with 1 Sharp Sphere (+1 with refresh mind) but at raids where bosses would have massive HP such as the squad royal Road raids, joshua keeps up with Rubi because she can cycle 3 skills (3rd,4th,5th) while keeping her debuff (chain) and own buff (blessing) at maximum. All these without elemental resistances taken into consideration.
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    why not just post the video of him in action vs rubi. They seem about the same in my opinion. The good think about kiss is he doesnt rely on SP so might be nice to pair with other toons. Also lower cool downs makes him pre rubi nerf good lol.
    Also keep in mind who knows what atri he using since rubi relies alot on SP. My rubi can hit 6k sp unbuff and around 8k fully buff he verly gets 3-4k which makes rubis modifier and attribute modifier meh.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO7zq6bu2a4

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noob View Post
    why not just post the video of him in action vs rubi. They seem about the same in my opinion. The good think about kiss is he doesnt rely on SP so might be nice to pair with other toons. Also lower cool downs makes him pre rubi nerf good lol.
    Also keep in mind who knows what atri he using since rubi relies alot on SP. My rubi can hit 6k sp unbuff and around 8k fully buff he verly gets 3-4k which makes rubis modifier and attribute modifier meh.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mO7zq6bu2a4
    With the same DPS Kiss will be preferred,tbh.
    He`s easier to equip (40 base ACC means that 30 ACC arti is not really critical), lower CDs (even if DPS of skills is lower, so overall DPS is the same) makes knockdowns less painful (if you knocked down as post-nerf Ruby at the beginning of channeling- byebye your DPS. Lower CDs means you can try again sooner), plus he can equip both Coat and Robe, which makes him more flexible in team comps (switching from RDPS to Kiss is easier then RDPS=>Ruby as you can use the same coat, while for Ruby you need a dedicated robe).

    Basically he`s Ruby with less equipment requirements, which is always nice.

    But overall his DPS in the video is a bit lower. Due to stacking,probably,so overall he should be the same.
    Ruby takes 20-25 sec to hit 30m damage mark. Kiss do ~25m per 25s, but after that his channeling is ready to go, and he still haven`t got his +2AR effect (from fully stacked buff).
    Sooo...Ruby>Kiss in extremely short runs, Kiss> Ruby when boss is tanky or there`re many bosses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsyous View Post
    With the same DPS Kiss will be preferred,tbh.
    He`s easier to equip (40 base ACC means that 30 ACC arti is not really critical), lower CDs (even if DPS of skills is lower, so overall DPS is the same) makes knockdowns less painful (if you knocked down as post-nerf Ruby at the beginning of channeling- byebye your DPS. Lower CDs means you can try again sooner), plus he can equip both Coat and Robe, which makes him more flexible in team comps (switching from RDPS to Kiss is easier then RDPS=>Ruby as you can use the same coat, while for Ruby you need a dedicated robe).

    Basically he`s Ruby with less equipment requirements, which is always nice.

    But overall his DPS in the video is a bit lower. Due to stacking,probably,so overall he should be the same.
    Ruby takes 20-25 sec to hit 30m damage mark. Kiss do ~25m per 25s, but after that his channeling is ready to go, and he still haven`t got his +2AR effect (from fully stacked buff).
    Sooo...Ruby>Kiss in extremely short runs, Kiss> Ruby when boss is tanky or there`re many bosses.
    Soo...
    Kiss got nerfed on KGE Silver 19th of June.
    Instead of ACC +30 ,his stance will now only have ACC +10. Dunno if we`ll get the nerfed version...

    So...ACC arti is needed again.
    Basically right now he`s (Ruby)+(Coat)-(Burst)+(stacking).
    Well, in my eyes he dropped a bit. Still gonna try to get him as his concept is good, but...not gonna make him my main char now.

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