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    Quote Originally Posted by Prefix View Post
    You don't even understand English or math it seems.

    No its Multiplicative to do atk * racial as stated above

    But to get these 2 bonus's

    Monster dam/Racial bonus are Additive
    Attack bonus are additive

    Where I said 55% was if you already had monster damage and added 100 racial on top of that it would added 55% to go from


    To get total damage atk * monster is multiplicative. I stated this clearly and explained how to get math. You were trying to tell us that 10% is 20% then you make a post of what I stated above and claiming I am wrong when your post shows it.
    Do you need i call TearOfBlood to this topic ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Prefix View Post
    200 damage + 80% Monster damage = 360
    Now add 100% racial chip to the weapon = 560 damage
    The 100% racial only adds 55% final damage
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    Quote Originally Posted by egado View Post
    Do you need i call TearOfBlood to this topic ?
    Yes if you had 80% racial and added another 100% racial the 100% racial chip adds 55% final damage.

    You have 100 damage first racial puts you to 180
    Add another 100 racial you would move to 180% racial or 280% total damage this gives a 55% increase over having only 80 racial.


    Atk modifiers are additive
    Racial modifiers are additive

    Then Attack * Racial is multiplicative.

    This is not hard to understand.

    Re read the ****ing post. You do no even try


    You are trying to argue 2 things

    1) That bonus's are not additive then multiplied multiplicative after
    2) That 10% attack gives 20% damage

    Watch my Doom artifact video that proves attack modifers are addative.

    Your completely wrong in how math works & how the game works.


    The how the game works with multiplicatiev & addative is pretty funny because its not even relevant for your first point about 10% attack being 20% damage.
    Last edited by Prefix; 07-10-2018 at 09:41 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prefix View Post
    Yes if you had 80% racial and added another 100% racial the 100% racial chip adds 55% final damage.

    You have 100 damage first racial puts you to 180
    Add another 100 racial you would move to 180% racial or 280% total damage this gives a 55% increase over having only 80 racial.


    Atk modifiers are additive
    Racial modifiers are additive

    Then Attack * Racial is multiplicative.

    This is not hard to understand.

    Re read the ****ing post. You do no even try


    You are trying to argue 2 things

    1) That bonus's are not additive then multiplied multiplicative after
    2) That 10% attack gives 20% damage

    Watch my Doom artifact video that proves attack modifers are addative.

    Your completely wrong in how math works & how the game works.


    The how the game works with multiplicatiev & addative is pretty funny because its not even relevant for your first point about 10% attack being 20% damage.
    80% monster damage turned into 80% racial ???? The shjt happens
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    You guys need me im back =)
    Damage works like this in the game
    ATK%(from weapon including lumin)*Racial*AllOtherAtkBuffs*MonsterDmge*ArmourA dvantage*AR-DR*StanceBonus*Weaponbase

    So Atk% from your weapon is not in addition with all your other attack buffs so its very important. A +7SD LGB has 324 base while a +8 Divine LGB has 332base. They both have the same AR.

    Assuming all other buffs is constant Except ATK% and Base
    The Divine has 332(WeaponBase)*1.4(ATK%Weapon)*2(Racial) = 929*K(Whateverconstant)
    The SD has 324(WeaponBase)*1.5(ATK%Weapon)*2(Racial) = 972*K(Whateverconstant)

    So the SD does 972K/929K = 1.0462.

    ONLY 4.62% higher than Divine. If the SD does 20mil damage the divine would have done 19.11mil.

    I can actually calculate the final damage with 99.9999% precision on the dummy with that formula because the game rounds down and up in weird ways its off by a decimal point.
    Last edited by Felinity; 07-11-2018 at 08:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Felinity View Post
    ATK%(from weapon including lumin)*Racial*AllOtherAtkBuffs*MonsterDmge*ArmourA dvantage*AR-DR*StanceBonus*Weaponbase
    Same as mine.
    Thats problem of GE. All damage bosting multiplicate final damage, not weapon base attack.
    Last edited by egado; 07-11-2018 at 10:21 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by egado View Post
    Same as mine.
    What the **** are you claiming why have you lied in every single post you made in this thread and every single post you are saying something different.


    You stated that the 10% atk was 20% total damage and I told you it was less than 10%




    Now you are claiming its 4%.



    I never even claimed the total damage of the 2 weapons I just explaind to you how 10% attack can never give 20% damage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Prefix View Post
    What the **** are you claiming why have you lied in every single post you made in this thread and every single post you are saying something different.


    You stated that the 10% atk was 20% total damage and I told you it was less than 10%




    Now you are claiming its 4%.



    I never even claimed the total damage of the 2 weapons I just explaind to you how 10% attack can never give 20% damage
    (1.5*2)-(1.4*2) = 0.2.

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    Last edited by egado; 07-11-2018 at 06:56 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by egado View Post
    (1.5*2)-(1.4*2) = 0.2.

    P.s: This server for euro only, so you can shut up why your connection is so bad.

    1.5 * 2 = 3.0
    1.4 * 2 = 2.8


    3/2.8 is 1.071428571428571


    How the **** do you get 20% from 3/2.8 ?

    Do you know how percentages work you do not subtract.


    The math you are using is like saying 11 is 50% more than 10.5
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    If I recall correctly there is also a difference between weapon Base atk and the extra atk you get from upgrading, the latter is less buffed than the former. I don't have the details with me right now though.

    This means that a newer series weapon (assuming it has more Base atk) is almost always better than a more upgraded previous series one.

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