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    Gear progression on new players. Need helo

    Hi all. As a new player on this game. What kind of gear progression you guys recommend? Do i really need to commit on sets? Or a broken piece good enough? I have an evil set atm. Thinking if making strata devil set mandatory to progress or skipping it possible? If yes,what set/gear shoul i aim for next? Thank you in advance

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    If you're solely committing on PvE (Raids/Missions), you don't have to commit on set at all. However a certain degree of accessories is still something you could pursue, in fact you can even participate in PvP (Clique Battle for example) with Evil set, I myself still use evil accessories for some certain characters.

    What separates people with accessories set and people without is when you achieve all the pieces together tbh, and it only mattered for Strata Devil/Valeron Set. In fact, Strata Devil at this moment is pretty obsolete already. What makes accessories significant is the enhancement late-game wise, a guy with +0/6 sd set and a guy with +10 sd set sets a huge difference!

    If you're opting for a budget, yet effective accessories/equipment progress here's what I think could help you:

    Earrings: Do Rank 4 Missions for those Selectable Advanced Earrings for +10stat earring(STR/DEX/INT/SEN/AGI) or belt(HP)

    Necklace/Belt: Just continue use Evil accessories for this category as an incomplete set, make sure you enchant the stats to 3-4 of your ideal STR/DEX/INT etc, you can farm for Evil accessories summon stone through low-mid tier rank missions(3-4? can't recall)

    Gloves/Boots: If you're a going for PvE only, just go with Evil. If you're going for something better, try Rank 5/6 and get a Bristia Boots/Gloves every 2 months. Do take note these bristia accessories enhance via Expert Chips so its more pricey lel

    Armor: If PvE only, a +7 GC with 3 Great Spodumene should suffice, events from time to time will provide you some GC summon stone, and DO NOT OPT FOR SD ARMOR UNLESS YOU HAVE FULL SET EFFECT. A +7 SD Armor without set is actually providing the same defense rating as a +7 Elite le Noir. If PvP, you can try proceeding into Santo de Blanc armors, there's a wide access among the market these days.

    Weapon: PvE wise with the prowess of MS.Barrol/Fox-twins/Rubiana you should be able to cope with all the latest missions with +6 Armonia or +7 Strata Racials with 3x Great Spodumenes/Obsidian, unless you're prepping for PvP then only get +7 Armonia/Valeron weapons with 3x Dazzling Spodumenes.

    TL;DR
    No, you don't have to commit on sets. Separated pieces is doable and what makes you better is the enhancement of those accessories.
    Skip Strata Devil. They're really obsolete to be even used in any fields now.
    Last edited by Doofus; 07-31-2019 at 06:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doofus View Post
    If you're solely committing on PvE (Raids/Missions), you don't have to commit on set at all. However a certain degree of accessories is still something you could pursue, in fact you can even participate in PvP (Clique Battle for example) with Evil set, I myself still use evil accessories for some certain characters.

    What separates people with accessories set and people without is when you achieve all the pieces together tbh, and it only mattered for Strata Devil/Valeron Set. In fact, Strata Devil at this moment is pretty obsolete already. What makes accessories significant is the enhancement late-game wise, a guy with +0/6 sd set and a guy with +10 sd set sets a huge difference!

    If you're opting for a budget, yet effective accessories/equipment progress here's what I think could help you:

    Earrings: Do Rank 4 Missions for those Selectable Advanced Earrings for +10stat earring(STR/DEX/INT/SEN/AGI) or belt(HP)

    Necklace/Belt: Just continue use Evil accessories for this category as an incomplete set, make sure you enchant the stats to 3-4 of your ideal STR/DEX/INT etc, you can farm for Evil accessories summon stone through low-mid tier rank missions(3-4? can't recall)

    Gloves/Boots: If you're a going for PvE only, just go with Evil. If you're going for something better, try Rank 5/6 and get a Bristia Boots/Gloves every 2 months. Do take note these bristia accessories enhance via Expert Chips so its more pricey lel

    Armor: If PvE only, a +7 GC with 3 Great Spodumene should suffice, events from time to time will provide you some GC summon stone, and DO NOT OPT FOR SD ARMOR UNLESS YOU HAVE FULL SET EFFECT. A +7 SD Armor without set is actually providing the same defense rating as a +7 Elite le Noir. If PvP, you can try proceeding into Santo de Blanc armors, there's a wide access among the market these days.

    Weapon: PvE wise with the prowess of MS.Barrol/Fox-twins/Rubiana you should be able to cope with all the latest missions with +6 Armonia or +7 Strata Racials with 3x Great Spodumenes/Obsidian, unless you're prepping for PvP then only get +7 Armonia/Valeron weapons with 3x Dazzling Spodumenes.

    TL;DR
    No, you don't have to commit on sets. Separated pieces is doable and what makes you better is the enhancement of those accessories.
    Skip Strata Devil. They're really obsolete to be even used in any fields now.
    thank you for the info. as i am not that familiar with the armor and weapon names. whats a safe AR/DR value should i aim for if i want to start raiding/finish scenario quests?

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    Probably anything past Evil (34AR, 32DR+) equipments with +6 above enhancements should let you proceed all the way until the end of scenario quests. I'd recommend to land on Greek Chroma straight away for armor and gradually upgrade your weapon series from Strata to Armonia then to Valeron, your survivability matters more as you can eventually take down the boss with a weaker AR weapon, it just takes slightly longer (except some missions that have short time limit).

    Quest generally have a safer level of AR/DR on the quest boss/mobs, as long as you have decent buffs (ET,Triumphs,Steroid etc) you wouldn't really be harmed that much.

    DR: Elite le Noir (32DR Base), GC (33), SDB aka Armonia (34), Valeron/SD (35, however SD cannot enchant +3DR)
    AR: Divine/Evil (34AR), SD/Tyrant (35), Armonia/Vigilar/Vernier (36), Valeron/Royal (37)

    Anything below the above DR/AR is pretty trash and shouldnt be used. Hope this helps
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    Thank you for clearing this up.!

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    Nice tips out there, thanks!
    Can you elaborate, maybe, what equipment should be enough for lvl 7/7+ missions? I'm kinga solo player (because of lack of time), also not multiboxing. Often getting destroyed on lower missions, and that's sad.
    Maybe you can get some numbers what I should aim for? In terms of AR/DR, pen, imm, etc. Have 2 sets of evil accs, one is +10 (excluding earring and boots). Pretty hard to enchant stuff without much feso.

    From chars I have MSB (his pistol costume, his medal and ring), Doom (2 rings), Elisa (Anis is without placidez), and Ion for flare and descent dmg, and since from descent bracelets I have only ice. Armors are GC +5 (can't afford more, but I should get to it really). And, well, getting wrecked here and there. Who I should pick with my char summon stone? Maybe G.Ru, or Rubiana, or C.Daria for descent afk? LMR? Or some support for team of 2 supports and 1 dps? So many options...

    Also with old chars recieving some buffs, are some of them worth using? Like Calyce, Veil, Tora, JD, Adelina, Ciel? Opinions for them are appreciated!

    Thanks in advance!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azuredream View Post
    Nice tips out there, thanks!
    Can you elaborate, maybe, what equipment should be enough for lvl 7/7+ missions? I'm kinga solo player (because of lack of time), also not multiboxing. Often getting destroyed on lower missions, and that's sad.
    Maybe you can get some numbers what I should aim for? In terms of AR/DR, pen, imm, etc. Have 2 sets of evil accs, one is +10 (excluding earring and boots). Pretty hard to enchant stuff without much feso.

    From chars I have MSB (his pistol costume, his medal and ring), Doom (2 rings), Elisa (Anis is without placidez), and Ion for flare and descent dmg, and since from descent bracelets I have only ice. Armors are GC +5 (can't afford more, but I should get to it really). And, well, getting wrecked here and there. Who I should pick with my char summon stone? Maybe G.Ru, or Rubiana, or C.Daria for descent afk? LMR? Or some support for team of 2 supports and 1 dps? So many options...

    Also with old chars recieving some buffs, are some of them worth using? Like Calyce, Veil, Tora, JD, Adelina, Ciel? Opinions for them are appreciated!

    Thanks in advance!
    Switch Elisa.

    I would switch Ion+ Elisa to Sariel + Rosa. Elisa is good in some missions (like Orden`s pillars in Synodia) due to massive debuff dispell, but overall you`ll want something more then usual ET.
    Since Rosa is incompatible with Ion, switching him to Sariel seems like a good option- Sariel is good for survival (due to -skill dmg debuff), DPS and buff (PEN buff,yay!). But you`ll feel pain equipping him, since he can`t use anything but Masterpiece and Valeron as cube. But if you can afford cubes from events- that`d be a good choice!
    Emilia is a good alternative to Placidez until you get one. She`s overall good defensive support, plus she can ress (Rosa, for example, cant), and dispell bosses (rarely needed, but useful). And using Emilia allows you to use Ion without switching him.

    Old chars... I`m really interested in Calyce (she`s getting a DEX scaling, which is a must for ranged DPS. Also she`s gonna become a perfect starter, since she`s easy to get, rings costs nothing, she`s using 1 weapon and leather armor, plus a good PEN boosts), but until we get our update - you can stick with Doom+ MSB as physical DPS chars. And even after Calyce buff and MSB nerf... Since Calyce scaling is hidden, it`ll need a huge testing.

    As for gear progress... I would just say that if you have +10 Evil set -you should focus on getting your GC as high as possible (aiming for +7+3 GC, and Spodumen slots), switching to Santo later. Evil set is good even in lategame. Switching accessoires to Strata\Armo will not buff you SO much, so putting your resources into armor seems more logical. Ofc, Advanced earring (eHoA\eWoA\eSoA) is a must even with Evil set (until you switch to Valeron set later) ,but since it`s easy to get one now- just grab it.

    Overall... Getting wrecked with +5 GC is a normal thing. Until you can afford a better armor- use Emilia to deal with quests. But focus on improving your armors ASAP.

    R7 often depends on your setup. MSB can solo Dullahan, for example, without recieving any damage (or recieveing s minimum damage from summons), while doing it with Doom gonna be more tricky. Trinity Vera also depends on you, since you can outdamage their regen and kill them 1by1, or tank all 3 of them and AOE them. But overall on other missions i think you`ll survive with +7+3 3S GC and +10 Evil set if you buff hard (Steroid + ET + Tirumph+ Wings + modern pet +...) and find a char setup that`ll suit you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by itsyous View Post
    Switch Elisa.

    I would switch Ion+ Elisa to Sariel + Rosa. Elisa is good in some missions (like Orden`s pillars in Synodia) due to massive debuff dispell, but overall you`ll want something more then usual ET.
    Since Rosa is incompatible with Ion, switching him to Sariel seems like a good option- Sariel is good for survival (due to -skill dmg debuff), DPS and buff (PEN buff,yay!). But you`ll feel pain equipping him, since he can`t use anything but Masterpiece and Valeron as cube. But if you can afford cubes from events- that`d be a good choice!
    Emilia is a good alternative to Placidez until you get one. She`s overall good defensive support, plus she can ress (Rosa, for example, cant), and dispell bosses (rarely needed, but useful). And using Emilia allows you to use Ion without switching him.

    Old chars... I`m really interested in Calyce (she`s getting a DEX scaling, which is a must for ranged DPS. Also she`s gonna become a perfect starter, since she`s easy to get, rings costs nothing, she`s using 1 weapon and leather armor, plus a good PEN boosts), but until we get our update - you can stick with Doom+ MSB as physical DPS chars. And even after Calyce buff and MSB nerf... Since Calyce scaling is hidden, it`ll need a huge testing.

    As for gear progress... I would just say that if you have +10 Evil set -you should focus on getting your GC as high as possible (aiming for +7+3 GC, and Spodumen slots), switching to Santo later. Evil set is good even in lategame. Switching accessoires to Strata\Armo will not buff you SO much, so putting your resources into armor seems more logical. Ofc, Advanced earring (eHoA\eWoA\eSoA) is a must even with Evil set (until you switch to Valeron set later) ,but since it`s easy to get one now- just grab it.

    Overall... Getting wrecked with +5 GC is a normal thing. Until you can afford a better armor- use Emilia to deal with quests. But focus on improving your armors ASAP.

    R7 often depends on your setup. MSB can solo Dullahan, for example, without recieving any damage (or recieveing s minimum damage from summons), while doing it with Doom gonna be more tricky. Trinity Vera also depends on you, since you can outdamage their regen and kill them 1by1, or tank all 3 of them and AOE them. But overall on other missions i think you`ll survive with +7+3 3S GC and +10 Evil set if you buff hard (Steroid + ET + Tirumph+ Wings + modern pet +...) and find a char setup that`ll suit you.
    I see, thanks. Unfortunately I don't have any gear for Sariel - no cube, no staff. Will maybe BNC suffice? Bcz she also had been buffed, and I have a book for her.
    Doing Rosa quest atm. Still need to procure her ring.
    What about other chars I wrote about? Are they hopelessly behind? And we still have ****load of others. And who should I pick from char select stone? I'm a bit lost here.
    My GC's are all +3, but to make them +7 will be quite a pain I imagine, yeah...
    I actually play on SEA GE, but our difference is not huge, and this forum is nice. Thanks again!

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