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  1. #21
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    Do not take anything from Collection Igorni's Character Card Box

  2. #22
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    If I have same immunity as ur pen, and considering that ide does ignore evasion? Heyran should still have around 40-50 evasion depending how high rcaisse buff is max 50 goes down to 1. Ppl are reporting that caisse hits all atcks that just play zzzz lol.

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noob View Post
    If I have same immunity as ur pen, and considering that ide does ignore evasion? Heyran should still have around 40-50 evasion depending how high rcaisse buff is max 50 goes down to 1. Ppl are reporting that caisse hits all atcks that just play zzzz lol.
    IDE...i dunno, but probably shouldn`t ignore EVA\BLK. Same like "Ignore DEF by", or -DEF debuffs like Lisa.
    Can be wrong, tho.

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    Ремонтируйте "Collection Igorni's Character Card Box" или возвращайте 40 Heyran's rewards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    repair "Collection Igorni's Character Card Box" or return 40 Heyran's rewards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. #25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nior View Post
    you need to learn more
    Idk who should learn more, even Null has posted the formula.

    Quote Originally Posted by Doofus View Post
    In case you guys don't know, 1 IDE(Ignore Def %) on range characters ignore 2 value of Blocking and Evasion each, so even if you do apply evade on shooting characters, you gotta still go through R.Caisse's bull**** high amount of IDE.
    Quote Originally Posted by itsyous View Post
    IDE...i dunno, but probably shouldn`t ignore EVA\BLK. Same like "Ignore DEF by", or -DEF debuffs like Lisa.
    Can be wrong, tho.
    적의 방어력을 1%, 블로킹 및 회피율을 1 무시하는 능력치. 몬스터의 블로킹과 회피율을 무시하는 수치는 2배로 적용된다.

    Ability to ignore 1% of enemy's defense and 1 blocking and evasion. Ignoring 2 monster's blocking and evasion rate.
    FAQS:
    Q: What stance does my character have ?
    Q: What's my max crit rate ?
    Q: What's lv13 of this skill ?
    Q: Which hand weapon is my damage based on ?

    >Click here to see answer<

  6. #26
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    Quote Originally Posted by Null View Post
    Effective penetration = Attacker penetration - Attacked immunity, 0 if <0
    Effective evasion = Attacked evasion - Effective penetration , 0 if <0
    So if both differences>0 Effective evasion = Attacked evasion-Attacker penetration + Attacked immunity
    I got simpler formula.
    Attacker's pen > Attacked's immu: Effective evasion = Attacked evasion-Attacker penetration + Attacked immunity
    Attacker's pen < Attacked's immu: Effective evasion = Attacked evasion
    FAQS:
    Q: What stance does my character have ?
    Q: What's my max crit rate ?
    Q: What's lv13 of this skill ?
    Q: Which hand weapon is my damage based on ?

    >Click here to see answer<

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    Yup, didn't remember ignore 2 value was for mobs, but hey my point stands, r.caisse's IDE played a big role either way

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by egado View Post
    Idk who should learn more, even Null has posted the formula.
    are you trying to say

    Penetration is for Immunity.
    Attack is for Def
    AR is for DR

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    Quote Originally Posted by jest174 View Post
    increase the chance of dropping an event item
    You are asking in wrong way.


    Try ''How much cash I need to increase my drop event rate?''

  10. #30
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    So.... Heyran and evade any shooter but not caisse? cause the test we did was with val set and immu page

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